[DGMurdockIII]

please please use vlc as a base for the player if you going from scratch

[GeekShadow]

@DGMurdockIII

Nope, it's not going to happens, since first Songbird's version were based of VLC and it was consuming more ram than GStreamer.

Future version of Nightingale may be based on GStreamer with HTML backend just like Mozilla does with audio API.

[rsjtdrjgfuzkfg]

(02-16-2013, 03:41 AM)pkay Wrote: Unfortunately, due to the Windows crash-on-adding-files bug, I've not had a real chance to play around with it

Feel free to get a nightly windows build or a testing release, both available at sourceforge. It should be fixed there.

About the conversion stuff: if you have an idea how to implement that in a platform-independent way, we can discuss an integration into the existing synchronization feature; or you can code a device add-on from scratch. Either way, feel free to ask if you need help or information

[marc]

"Your Comments Wanted! – Considering Donation Options"
I was unable to join the IRC channel (ok think that I was the problem butz didn had the time to check whats wrong) so I leaved a comment on the blog, two times, but nobody approves it?

Where to discuss about?

[ilikenwf]

Weird, I didn't get the wordpress email. I can go approve

[erikch]

(09-09-2012, 09:16 AM)GeekShadow Wrote: So, I'm currently at Poland this weekend for the MozCamp
https://wiki.mozilla.org/MozCampEU2012

After seeing the schedule, talking about Nightingale seemed a bit off-topic.
I don't think it's today we will attract more Mozilla contributors to help us upgrade the core of Nightingale.

There are several reasons :
* We are using a outdated version of XULRunner (matching Firefox 3.6 which is now outdated)
* Our XULRunner have a lot of custom patches from Songbird
* Mozilla is moving their code from XUL to HTML

At this point, only ilikenwf and Mook worked on the new core update but it seems like development has stalled.
Without Mozilla help, the road to up-to-date XULRunner could be long and I think we should focus on something new, writing from scratch.

From scratch ? Not totally.
I was thinking of starting from latest XULRunner or developing a Web app instead. Mozilla is currently writing a Music app for their Firefox OS (phones). https://github.com/mozilla-b2g/gaia/tree...apps/music

What if we fork it and make it also a desktop/tablet application ?
Working along with Mozilla could be really effective, while working with Songbird proved they are not even looking at
our patches.
We could even have an hybrid app : XULRunner + webapp...

POTI decisions are quite obscure now, if you have followed latest you certainly saw that they have launched a "Social" app working on Facebook. Other than this, they didn't update the core of Songbird at all, and I doubt they will in the near future.

Some cases of moving out of XUL :
- TomTom were using a XUL app for Navigation GPS, they have moved to a browser plugin instead.
- Flickr had a XUL app too to import photo, they finally upgrade their import photos webpage.

Forking Songbird was a lot of challenge and there is still a lot to do, mostly fixing bugs from the platform itself but also replace
stuff that POTI didn't provide such as real add-ons and translate platform.

Should we continue the long way of forking the current Songbird, or should we jump in the future ?

I'm not totally objective since I'm also a Mozilla contributor and Mozilla Reps, so I want to know what do you think about it.

I want to add that my current skills and time doesn't allow me to work on the XULRunner "upgrade", I would rather help on feathers, add-ons, l10n and patches.

I think the project nightingale need to focus on "cloud service"
Like integrate "google music" , "spotfy" ,"soundcloud".
Like a partneship or, build some service new to store music on cloud
I don't know would be best for you to start a new project, like a cloud service, from ZERO, but, if you could could be a REVOLUCIONARY.

The P.O.T.I close their door today becouse they don't build a product that fight IQUAL to Itunes, Winamp, windows Media Player and Spotfy.
TAKE A LOOK= blog.songbirdnest.com/you-gotta-know-when-to-fold-em/

I think you need, at moment, RESOLVE THE UBUNTU/DEBIAN REPOSITORY
After that, this could be too much easy...

Thanks if you ready all this /\
Erik Chendo (Portuguêse BRASIL translator)
...A FRIEND TOO...

[rsjtdrjgfuzkfg]

(07-11-2013, 11:24 AM)erik ch Wrote: I think the project nightingale need to focus on "cloud service"
Like integrate "google music" , "spotfy" ,"soundcloud".
Like a partneship or, build some service new to store music on cloud
I don't know would be best for you to start a new project, like a cloud service, from ZERO, but, if you could could be a REVOLUCIONARY.

We currently have an soundcloud add-on, and I'd love to see add-ons for other services as well. However I personally think we should focus on the core player, and once that is stable we can think about building cloud-related add-ons. Focussing on cloud stuff is a bad idea imho, especially until our codebase is ported to recent libs.

[ilikenwf]

+1

We have the idea of making addons to support a unified library between various cloud services and local music eventually, but that happens once our deps are up to date.